Outlook 2007 doesn’t show image borders
Posted by Mathew Patterson on April 22, 2008
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When we heard from Carl that "Word/Outlook 2007 HTML rendering engine does NOT fully support border styles, despite the official documentation saying otherwise", we ran a quick test of our own. That test confirmed that border styles, either inline or in the head of a document, do not render in Outlook 2007.
Here is how it should look
This is how Outlook 2007 renders the same code
Now that we have at least made contact with Google, it looks like Microsoft should be next on the list! Your ideas and suggestions are welcome. We also love to hear from you when you discover rendering issues like these, because we like to keep our reports accurate. You can email hello at emailstandards.org or leave a comment below.
I’ve seen this problem 2 weeks ago. My (bad) solution: I’ve but the border direct in the image :-(.
Outlook 2007 doesn’t take border="1" or style="border:1px solid #000” for imgs.
We have to do this to achieve the desired result:
<div style="border:1px solid #000;"> ...img… </div>
I’ve also started having to hack the ruddy border into the image. I’ve also found that Outlook 2007 changed all the sizes of the images in my email templates that I use on my local machine for day to day business - really made my day having to change these.
Hey guys - what do you reccomend to do about this. My email guy is saying the best (by which I think he means quickest)way is to physically put the border on the image. do you guys agree?
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Microsoft really did a number with this new software. This is the first time I hear this but like other comments mentioned, it’s better to add it to the image.
just put borders right in the images. skip all the other markup
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Since, we are in this Outlook 2007 topic, has anyone tested or know what the consequences are of using non-web safe colors as BG colors? We have clients that love tan and light browns and the closest web safe colors are either pink or yellow.
Gross. This is one of the reasons Microsoft can be so frustrating to work with in the world of email as in the world of web development: It’s not just that they do not support many standards, it’s the fact that the standards they do “support” are frequently broken or incorrectly implemented.
Many times this can practically be worse, as you have to learn a whole new set up tricks that make your code even more incompatible. It’s almost better if they don’t support a standard then support it incorrectly.
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This is a problem? It think they’re doing your recipients a favour!
Like one of the posters said, just include borders in the image itself if you absolutely must.
Next you’ll be complaining about lack of support for the BLINK tag!
Seriously? What exactly are you designing?
Put the border direct in the image is the first solution, the second call Microsoft Team.
Along these similar lines, Outlook 2007 does not appear to fully support border-bottom styling. When applying the same border bottom styling to multiple cells in a row, occasionally it starts ignoring the border.
Not sure if anyone else has noticed this or came across a fix.
Cheers for that info man, that stuff has been anoying me for pure ages man, I will be an expert one day but until that day i will cherish getting the info i need off yous guys.
I’ll also add that Outlook 2007 doesn’t seem to support padding (and possibly margins?) on images. Developing on Linux for Outlook 2007 recipients is simply world of pain… It took me 3 days to make a single email display reasonably (a far cry from “correctly").
According to our email usage statistics, currently about 8% of all recipients use Outlook 2007.
@Eddie Minaya: The web-safe color palette was developed about 12 years ago, when people had computers with graphic cards and monitors, which only supported a limited color depth like 256 colors.
Thanks for flagging this up. I was using Excel 2007--but numerous issues like this has resulted in me reverting back to 2003, its just better!-Cheers
Borders on DIVs are pretty inconsistent, too. A markup like <div style="border:1px solid #000000;"> will render properly about half the time, but the other half, the right border goes missing. I haven’t figured out any kind of pattern as to when it will work and when it won’t, and it doesn’t seem to matter if the styling is inline or in the head.
Or do nothing and just move on :)
I’ve found also other problems....
You write that there is a full support for line-height, but in my experience it is not.
Margins and paddings are not supported expecially with floating images.
I think Microsoft’s interests in making Word as default for email editing will be our headache in next years :-(
Errata: the line-height is supported in pixels (and not in ems).
I try to make border using applying styles to a div around images but it doesn’t work for me.
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I deal with a lot in various email clients, and have noticed disparities between many of them, I will send you a list of items I have found
I dont user outlook 2007 but I was using Outlook 2003 but I have never seen a error Outlook 2003.
My friends is using Outlook 2007 he saw some error, (outlook 2007 doesnt show image border)
Well borders is not the only issue. I’m yelling to Outlook all day long.
Well thanks for sharing. I had this problem as well during sending a newsletter. I also had the problem Outlook didn’t listen to the ruledistance i had given.
Hopefully outlook 2010 is gonna be awesome.
Ofcourse Outlook and Microsoft do always have anything.
But except of that. Outlook 2007 just rocks, it gives me more usability then i’ve ever expected.
Outlook 2007 no reconoce bordes en imágenes - Email standards project publicó hace unos días un artículo informando que Outlook 2007 (si ya de por sí da problemas para maquetar correos) no reconoce bordes en imágenes a pesar que teóricamente se supone que los reconocía.
Borders are definitely not the only issue with Outlook.
Awesome stuff man. You inspired me a lot.
This is so typical of Microsoft. Just look at how flawed Internet Explorer 6 is. They just don’t get it, making live much harder for everybody out there.
Borders are definitely not the only issue with Outlook. ,
This is so typical of Microsoft. Just look at how flawed Internet Explorer 6 is. They just don’t get it, making live much harder for everybody out there.
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Wow. Outlook is almost as flawed as Internet Explorer. Thank good there is IE7 now. Thanks for the info though. Very nice read…
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Very interesting post, thank you. I would like to see better browser standards, perhaps you can write on this topic?
Thank you for trying to unify standards. These are the little things that give us developers headaches daily!
Thanks for all of the updates on the nightmare called Outlook 2007. This helps quite a bit with my email design
Put the border direct in the image is the first solution, the second call Microsoft Team.
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Your ideas and suggestions are welcome. We also love to hear from you when you discover rendering issues like these, because we like to keep our reports accurate. You can email hello at emailstandards.org or leave a comment below.
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Outlook 2007 does not appear to fully support border-bottom styling.
currently about 8% of all recipients use Outlook 2007.
I had the same problems with border-bottom styling in Outlook. Just one of the reasons why I don’t use it anymore.
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Outlook 2007 no reconoce bordes en imágenes - Email standards project publicó hace unos días un artículo informando que Outlook 2007 (si ya de por sí da problemas para maquetar correos) no reconoce bordes en imágenes a pesar que teóricamente se supone que los reconocía.